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I've been wearing a split collar stretcher nearly 24 hours a day for a couple of months, and it's fine, but when I take it off and pull on my scrotum, the skin is a lot thicker than it used to be - sort of like wet-suit material. Is this normal?

Jogood, yes, it seems so for me. The scrotum is actually a couple of layers, one is skin and another is the 'dartos' muscle, a smooth muscle that retracts the balls. When my balls pull up against the collar such as cold weather I suspect the dartos is gettng exercised and a bit stronger and hence has that thicker feel. When it warms up again and the dartos relaxes and is thin again.
Bill

Has anybody heard anything from Bareass?

Can wearing a weight make you tired for the first week or so? It's just a pound.

Jogood
Username: Jogood

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 07:44 pm:

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Can wearing a weight make you tired for the first week or so? It's just a pound.

--> Only if you haven't been getting enough sleep
BareAss

Jogood
Username: Jogood

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 07:43 pm:

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Has anybody heard anything from Bareass?

---> Still here.
BareAss

Good. Glad to know it.

I just found out there's a word for what some of you already are and what some of us are striving to become:

rantallion: One whose scrotum is longer than his penis.

Google it.

Posted by Jogood on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 11:11 pm:

Good. Glad to know it.

I just found out there's a word for what some of you already are and
what some of us are striving to become:
rantallion: One whose scrotum is longer than his penis.
Google it.
--> Here I thought it was MenIntoBallStretching
BareAss

Very glad to hear you, BareAss.

Stretch smart!
Giorgio

Giorgio
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Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:09 pm:

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Very glad to hear you, BareAss.

Stretch smart!
Giorgio

--> My pleasure as well my friend.
BA

Has anyone had permanent results from stretching their scrotum? In many of the posts I've read, people are stating that once their weights are off for awhile, their scrotum will stretch back to their original length. Has anyone been successful enough to add some length and give up using the weights? I'm not so much in to using the weights regularly, as I am wanting to stretch my sac.

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How often do you guys take off your ring(s), Steelmaster/smooth/other? (I got 'engaged', BTW)

I wear a Ball Bag most of the Time. The upper band is lined with an electrode, and there are two electrodes that are in the bottom. The upper band is a bout a 1" ball stretcher. I don't use it to stretch as much as a constant "tapping"
When I wear it I keep it on for several days. ((Bless radioshack for rechargable batteries))
I have worn split collars for months at a time.
All you need is CoCoaButter cream, a good strong condom (avanti is about the strongest) Grease your buts, cover with the condom, put a weight, or collar on. The condom keeps the clothes clean, and keeps the collar/weight from pinching.
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I also wear my split collar (545g) almost all the time. I do not take it off even in the Gym I visit 3 times a week. I take it off only in the morning before shower and most of the time it is pure pleasure to feel the weight. After a month , I have now progressed by adding another ring of 260g, but this is proving too problematic - I have to remove it after 4-5 hours - clearly one needs to listen to one's body and progress in stages. Many users here could be described as advanced - Jogood, I siggest that you also take it in stages and progress at your own pace. This site is so very helpful and is full of most helpful hints and advice.

I have been wearing my 30mm split collar for over one month now. For the first two weeks I never took it off. The last two weeks I have been taking it off everyother day for a couple of hours when I first stretch with twenty lbs of weight for twenty minutes and the pump for about an hour. I have seen some progress and can now add a couple of 1/2 inch split collars for most of a day. I have to take them off as they are not as smooth as the steelmaster and start to irritate after a day.

Baccrkr, did you mean 20 lbs (9Kg)??!! that is astonishing weight even it is for 20 minutes, do you use parachute??
Milan

Milan yes 20lbs and yes I do use a parachute it is the metal one from secretleather. Works much better then the leather ones I've tried in the past. I'll post a picture in the Photographs section.

Baccrkr,
You got it! Very nice photo. That's a heavy work out. Thanks a lot for sharing.

Train smart!
Giorgio.

Hi Giorgio
Thanks, it's fun and plesant to keep trying to get them longer.

How are you doing with your stretching? Any current photos to share?

Always enjoy see a great pair of balls get stretched

Giorgio
Just to keep you posted. I just order a couple more steelmaster collars an other 30mm and a 22mm. The current 30 mm is getting really lose. I have been trying to wear my 56 mm collar more, and I can wear it comfortably for a couple of days at a time. I'm hoping the combination of the 30 and the 22 will be comfortable enough to wear all the time, until the next step..

Baccrkr,

Why another 30 mm SteelMaster? Are you adjusting your ID? On the other hand a 30 mm plus a 22 mm SM could be a very nice weight. Uhmmm. Please let us know. I have had my 30 mm SM on since April 15 without taking it off not even for the shower. Very confortable and pleasurable. A sex toy that is now part of my body for whenever I need it. But if you can wear both of yours I will change my 30 mm SM for a 40 mm SM that I got before. Thanks a lot.

Stretch smart!
Giorgio.

Giorgio
I have tried smaller ID's but they cause to much discomfort. I just order the new SM collars so it will be a week or so before I get them. I was think of starting with the combination of the 30 and the 22 for a while to see how it feels. The only problem is wearing longer collars does cause them to show more in my pants. I don't really care but it has cause more then a few stares. With the 30mm I have become so comfortable that I forget I'm wearing it and that has cause a couple of embarassing moments. I when to use the bathroom and standing at the urinal I, not thinking, pulled out the whole package and the couple of guys around me were staring when I realized what I had done and what they were staring at.

Almost four months of constant wear that great. Congratulations. What kind of results have you seen in length? Do you have any current pictures? Would love to see the progress.

Stretching is addicting and fun

baccrkr

I have also managed to keep on almost continuously my 30mm (with 38 ID) and this proved to be pure ecstasy. Recently I added another 15 mm collar but because the increased weight I found that both slipped off ( very painful and inconvenient). I therefore had to reduce the ID of the small (lower) ring to ID of 35mm which is less then ideal but this resolves the problem. However I find that because the tight fit and increased weight, I now occasionally experience intense pain (because of the friction) and the only way how to resolve this problem is to lubricate the scrotum and keep it so. There are references to this problem on other parts of this site. The additional weight feels good, but recent problems are irritating. Has anyone else travelled these paths?

Milan

Milan,

I do have travelled those paths, a little long by the way, but with a very happy ending: I found "my" combination of weight, ID (hardly enough not to leave the collar slide down) and collar shape (not to get my skin pinched or hurt by sharp collar joints). To use it permanentely I think every one has to find his own combination. In my opinion this is the ideal, what do you think? The point is not to get your skin irritated, darker nor colder.

As to lubrication I follow the BareAss' advise: lots or pure Coccoa Butter on. At least twice a day. Maybe you'd like to ask him why it works so well. If bothers continue the combination of these tree factors has to be reviewed: Not well round collar edges? Sharp collar joints? Too much weight?

Stretch smart!
Giorgio.

Good Morning Giorgio.
I have taken the libert of using one of your pics from the old Yahoo Group 'MenIntoBallStretching' To Illustrate the use of A Condom, CCB, & a Weight on my Male Metal site. I am sure the Owner of this site, (Secret Leather) can suggest where to get non-Latex condoms like (Avanti) and others, or has them in stock.
Be Well
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Hello BareAss,

Just some comments on that photo: I took it on February 09. The previous year I used leather straps and split collars just to play, off and on. Later I decided to gradually stretch my balls and begun to wear leather straps all day long, specially while sleeping, to prevent contraction during nocturnal erections (while REM sleep). I planned to monthly increase one centimeter and started wiht 1 centimeter strap. I reached 5 centimeters the fifth month and then decided to begin wearing split collars all day long (24/7).

As I've told before, to prevent health injuries, I had to experiment with weights and collar ID's and shapes until I found my 30 mm height and ID SM (495 gms).

The first time I had it on only 4 days and took it off to rest, to shave, and to leave my skin get unswollen. I saw a very noticeable change. I put it back and the third day, following BareAss's advice, I put a condom on for my skin to keep moist and it was when I took the photo.

I will let you know soon what I have done since then and what have been my results up to now.

Stretch smart!
Giorgio.

Giorgio
Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Well, it's been two days now since I started wearing the additional 22mm SM collar and its really comfortable most of the time. I think there will be a short adjustment period, because about the middle of today I had to take off the extra collar as my balls were getting a little sore. After about couple of hours off I put it back on and it has been fine. I figure I going to try wearing only during the day for a while to see if I adapt to it.

Stretching is addicting and fun
baccrkr

Regarding interior diameters - my right testicle is rather small and my split ring slipped off it at work yesterday - not a pleasant experience - but fortunately the left one is larger and the ring didn't fall off - what are the smaller IDs available?

Niclaus,
You don't say what ID you are using now! Secretleather offer 40mm, 39mm, 36mm, 35mm, 33mm, and 30mm. If that doesn't suit you - you're in trouble!
Regards
Dave

Dave,

I'm fairly new to stretching and have tried several different types: a 1" leather snap, 1" neoprene and a 1/2" split ring stainless, all 1 1/4" ID. My scrotum almost always rides very close to my body, even with warm (the reason I want to stretch). This makes it difficult to attach any type of stretcher. I tried the leather snap type first but have not had success getting it snapped around the sac. I've had more success with the other two but still am having problems. 1) the split ring seems too tight as my sac starts turning blue after about 10 minutes. 2)The neoprene one doesn't seem to cut off circulation but after about 15 minutes one of my nuts retracts, followed shortly by the other -- this causes the stretcher to fall off since there is nothing to hold onto but an empty sac. So, even though both of these are the same diameter, it seems the stainless one is too tight and the neoprene one is too loose. What would you suggest? Should I get the next smaller neoprene (1") or the next larger split stainless (1 1/2")? These are the two styles I would like to stay with. Sorry for the long-worded question. Thanks for any input! Anybody else is welcome to put their two-cents worth in as well, and thanks!

KC

Hi KC,
1 1/4" (approx 31mm) seems to me very tight to start with. Of course everybody is different, but most people start off at around 39mm (1.56") or 36mm (1.44"). I myself don't need to go below 36mm, and would find 1 1/4" impossibly tight. The steel one is obviously too tight - ball sac turning blue is bad! Please stop using it. The neoprene one is not too loose, it just expands as your testicles want to retract, and allows them to pass by. The rule of thumb is - Start with as big a diameter as you can without it slipping right off, and then go down a size at a time, until you get it right. The bigger ones can always be worn above the smaller ones as you progress. If you start the other way round you risk simply wasting money!. My advice? buy the cheapest 39mm ring (Ringmaster 15mm x 39mm for example). If that's too loose then move to a 36mm, and use the 39mm above it when you're ready. My feeling is that neoprene is fine for decoration and comfort if you're an established stretcher, but it's not suitable for creating the stretch to begin with. Use your stretcher with lubrication, and don't be in a hurry, you must take it easy with ball stretching, or you'll just cause pain or injury and put yourself off. I regret I know of no reliable way of finding out what is the right ID for you to use without actually trying out a split collar (the best way to stretch your scrotum in my experience)and learning the hard way. People will suggest ways to measure such as a hose clip etc - they don't tell you what you need to know, and it's a waste of time.
Hope this helps, and good luck, but please be careful.

Hi Folks,
This is my first post. I've been into some serious ball-stretching recently and just wanted to share some experiences. The only commercial thing I have is a 9cm leather stretcher, which I have a photo of myself using. I stretch my balls all the time with my hand, squeezing them with my hand so that the balls come out the other end.
I've been trying to hang from my cock and balls about six times now and I'm nearly there: has anyone else done this? Do you gradually go from cock & balls to balls-only? What is the stretch and gain in length? How painful do you find it?

Hi,
Does anyone have any fantasies they are willing to share about ball stretching? I have a couple of fantasies that I probably wouldn't have the courge to do even if I did get the opportunity.

MS.

Hey MS - don't tease us like that! If you've got fantasies, then you gotta share them first - so, let's hear 'em!

Hi Dave,

First, I wasn't meaning to tease everyone. (grin). Being that I'm new here, I just didn't know what was appropriate or not appropriate forum.

Sure, I'll share the ones I'm thinking of right now. Here goes.

I think it would be awesome to be a nude waiter at a coed party. I would have on my 1 inch ball stretcher with a chain attached to it to hang weights. Of course my balls would be shaved. I would have a bucket of ice with bottled water or any other bottled beverage hanging from my balls in this bucket. My job would be to keep making trips back and forth offering drinks for the party goers. This would only be until the food was ready to be served. When the food was ready, the food would be placed on one of those four wheeled food carts. I then would be hooked up to this cart with a chain to my ball stretcher. Now it would be my job to pull this cart around to all the party goers and offer the main dish. When they were finished with the main dish, desert would be offered. Then I would go back to offering drinks from the bucket. During the times I was serving drinks it would be fun if the party goers enjoyed making the bucket swing between my legs. Then after everyone was finished eating, if they thought I provided good service, they would request my services at future parties. This would be absolutely amazing.

My next fantasy involves I get the chance to enter a nude olympics/strongest man contest One event would be naturally, who could lift the most weight with their balls. The next event would be who could pull a specific heavy object with their balls the farthest distanc. Like one of the things I would get to pull would be a wagon loaded with bricks. The man that could pull the wagon with the most bricks wins that contest. The next contest would be a tug-o-war. Two guys would be connected by a specific length of chain and then hooked up to their balls. The next contest would be races. Here again there would be wagons loaded with bricks or something else then hooked up to the contestants balls. Someone would start the race and we would follow a pre-selected race track and whoever crosses the finish line first wins. The next contest is kind of a team contest. There could be as many teams that wanted to compete. Like my girlfriend and I would be one team etc. There would be this croket game set set up. I may have miss spelled that. It's the game where you have these rings set up in the yard and you take this mallet and have to hit the ball through the rings. Well in my fantasy I would have some kind of heavy ball hanging from my balls. Then my girlfriend or someone else would have to swing the heavy ball that is hanging from my balls and hit the ball that is on the ground. The object of the game would be to hit the ball through the rings. The first team to complete the course wins the game. The next game both the contest has a chance to win and the audience has a chance to win. We would all line up in a row and we would have heavy weights hanging from our balls. Someone from the audience would say begin and we would all start to jack off. The first one to cum wins the race. In the audience who ever they bet on that would be the first to cum they win then.

I would love to do both of these fantasies. It would be awesome. I just don't know if I would have the courage.

Thanks for letting me share these fantasies.

MS

Hi MS, I too would like to participate in a balls tug-of-war. And a crochet game sounds fun with my partner swinging the heavy ball attached to my balls hard to strike the crochet ball where it would impart it's energy to the crochet ball & send it on it's way through the rings. Hope (she) doesn't miss though!

My fantasy is to cramp my partner up in a laundry basket chained to my balls & with me on hands & knees pull her along with her whipping my stretched balls every time I stop for a breather. Aim is to get her from the far end of the house to the bedroom.

(I'm working on toughening up my balls)

Hi Cb,

I never thought of pulling my girlfriend around in a laundry basket. That is an awesome one. I don't know how it would feel if our partners missed in the crochet game but I know I love the feel of heavy weights swinging from my balls. Thanks for sharing your fantasies.

MS

Hey Cb,
I was just thinking. It would be fantastic if you and I could race each other pulling our girlfriends around the house in laundry baskets by our balls.

MS

Bring on global warming! Sir Nicholas Stern (based on worst scenario IPCC computer projections) sees our Earth heating up as much as 10C during this century. OK, I won't be around then to have my balls permanently dangling at full length. & Stern/IPCC don't actually have a clue anyway.

But, having brought up the subject of loose balls, why is it that my balls don't dangle of a morning? I spend the night with my balls "locked up" behind my bum - not stretched, just held at length during the night. But as soon as I jump out of bed of a morning for a piss, those balls pull up within a few seconds & want to stay that way for the rest of the morning. Then comes the arvo & they loosen up nicely & dangle. Where I live, the temperature hasn't changed much - so temperature doesn't explain the cremastic muscle loosening off. So, why is it so? Would you believe the cremaster muscle simply loses it's "oomph" after a few hours of (morning) work? Bearing in mind that I've held my balls at length all night with the cremaster muscle "sidelined", & I reckon balls behind the bum would be no warmer, & probably cooler, than balls couped up in the groin - again I ask, why is it so? (sound like J. S. Miller?) Does the cremaster know the difference between lying horizontal in bed & standing vertical?

Guys that wear SS around their balls 24/7 have the same complaint - take off the welght of a morning & those pesky pills just pull straight up - even after months of encasement!

A question - if you stretch your balls, say 3" or more, does that cremaster muscle still have enough "movement" in it to pull up all that extra length?

The cremaster muscle is stimulated to "pull" by falling temperature - how? Does lower scrotum skin temperature produce some chemical that stimulates the cremaster muscle to "pull"? Is there some neutralizing chemical to rub on your balls out there?

Or is it electrical? Just put a ring around balls/penis & a ring around yours nuts & apply a couple of mV of reverse polarity voltage? Guess not.

Comments?

Hi Cb,
I feel it is a case of muscle memory. It's kind of like when a person stretches other parts of their body the have increased flexability but when the stop they lose their felability. I feel it is the same way with our balls. I could be wrong.

MS

Hi MS, thanks for sharing your fantasies with us. Here is one of mine.

I'm spreadeagled upright and naked, in the study at home, chained to the wall by my wrists with padlocks and a spreader bar to my ankles. Jane, my wife attaches a leather parachute to my balls after lubricating my sac. Ready to hand are a number of weights consisting of small bags filled with lead shot, each weighing around 1 kilo. They are not attached to me yet, but the promise is there, and I'm hard with anticipation. She circles the head of my penis with her mouth, but then quickly and impishly leaves the room leaving me deeply frustrated and aching for attention.

Some minutes go by, but I'm left to wait. Slightly unsettlingly, the doorbell goes, and suddenly I feel nervous and vulnerable. My wife answers it and I hear her invite in one of her girlfriends. I can hear them talking just a few feet away across the hallway, but happily the door to the study is only slightly ajar, I'm safe. I try pulling on the chains, but I can't get them to budge an inch, I'm firmly locked in place. It's getting warm, my balls are dangling slightly now, and my erection is, if anything, heightened by the tension I'm feeling.

A few minutes later the doorbell goes again, and another friend is ushered into the house, followed by another and another. There are five of them now, chatting and laughing, and evidently their arrival was expected! I'm excited, worried, turned on, nervous, rampant, and pre cum is glistening as it slides down my hard throbbing cock. Voices get nearer, laughter gets louder, but to my relief, it fades again. They’re across the hall in the living room. I hear my wife excuse herself as she leaves the room to fix drinks. Music comes to my ears, and the clinking of ice in glasses mixes with the music and laughter.

Again I hear my wife take her leave to arrange food now. The door opens slowly, my wife with a wicked grin appears, and says sorry she can't stop now she's rushing to look after her guests, and with that, she's gone! I can't cry out I'll be heard - damn!, I'm stuck in this heavenly yet hellish quandry.

I'm desperately frustrated, extremely nervous, deeply aroused, but completely unable to do anything about it. What if I get discovered? How embarassing, how can I get free? Wait..... the music and laughter is getting louder....... somebody is talking... I hear a
strange voice saying...there must be a pen here somewhere, I'll look in the study" Oh Shit!

The door opens slowly, and a heady whiff of perfume comes to me followed by an elegant dark haired woman in her mid 40s wearing jeans and a soft tight fitting polo neck that accentuates her flat tummy and dramatically contoured breasts, it’s Jane’s friend Cara. She crosses the room to the desk and finds a pen. She turns to leave and only then is confronted by the sight of me chained to the wall behind the partly open door. I'm naked, erect and my balls are gathered into a black leather parachute. She stops, her mouth falls open, her eyes wide with shock. I'm now a deep shade of red and speechless. I close my eyes and hope to be swallowed up by the ground.
A few moments pass but the ground doesn't accommodate me, I'm still there in all my glory, I open my eyes, and she's still there, but now a grin is on her face and she’s gazing at my hardness and clearly curious about the parachute and why I’m there in this state. She looks at me, traces her fingers across the stack of weights, smiles, and quietly leaves the room, closing the door behind her. Back in the living room, the chatter continues unabated. I’m embarrassed, but I guess OK, and relieved that I haven’t been exposed to the rest of the guests. My penis is now relaxed and soft, giving up the struggle. It is several more minutes later when I see the door handle turn and Cara slips quietly into the room. “Those weights……. are they meant to hang on your……” her voice trails off in uncertainty. “Curiosity is killing me, and I have to see this…and you’re in no position to stop me!”. She lifts a weight, hefts it in her hand for a moment seemingly undecided, then somewhat delicately takes my balls in one hand while using the other to clip a weight on the parachute. She nervously lowers the weight and with a sense of wonder watches it drag my balls downward. “Oh! Doesn’t that hurt?” she breathes. But my deep breathing and telescoping cock answer for me. “I guess not!” she smiles. My eyes are closed again, but this time in ecstasy. I’m starting to think how wonderful those dark red lips look and what wonderful things Cara could do with them, while my balls are succumbing to gravity. I open my eyes with hope and anticipation, but she’s leaving the room again! Hell!

I’m feeling good but more ready than ever to be played with, when suddenly I’m aware of silence from the living room, then hushed voices and a few stifled exclamations. The music gets turned up, and I have only a few more moments to wait, before the door opens again, and my sexy temptress returns but now with her three friends, their eyes wide and their mouths open in astonishment!. The surprise quickly turns to interest however, as Cara clips another weight on my balls. They immediately hang lower under the increased pressure. “Oh my goodness” one of them exclaims “Isn’t that painful?” “Apparently not” says a blonde friend, “Let me help too” With that she crosses the room and as she bends over to pick up a weight for herself, I’m fascinated by a glimpse of her beautiful breasts held to discipline by black lace behind a loosely buttoned top. She too gingerly takes hold of my balls and with all four women holding their breath she clips on another weight, and slowly lets my balls take the strain. I groan with pure erotic desire and pleasure as the added weight brings its pressure on my long extended sac, and the women can’t take their eyes off the spectacle. Three kilos now and it feels fantastic. My nervousness and embarrassment is gone – I’m desperate to be abused by all these women who have me completely at their mercy. I’m even ready to beg them to do with me what they will. Please! Don’t make me wait!

A sudden loud banging of plates coming from the kitchen seems to wake them all up. “What if Jane finds us in here!” one of them stammers, and the moment is gone No! Stop!, but Carla is already on her knees in front of me taking off the weights, while the others quietly hustle out of the room. The last weight comes off, and the anguish is plain in my face. “I’m sorry Dave” she whispers, but before she goes she places a soft and achingly beautiful kiss on the head of my shaft, leaving a tantalizing impression of dark red lipstick. I’m on my own again.

It’s some time later before Jane looks in, and I can see she’s enjoying herself, but I can see she’s also puzzled. She doesn’t remember wearing that shade of lipstick when she kissed me.

Will there be a next time, and how long must I wait…………..?

Hi Cb,
I know only too well the frustration of waking up to wonderful loose, long, low hanging balls only to have them shrivel up as soon as you get out of bed. When I don't have to rush off to work I hang a heavy weight on (a ball trap in most cases), and that does the trick, by soon getting them to hang down again. Why do they do it? I presume it is to do with the issue of maintaining the sperm at optimum temperature to maximise sperm efficacy. I assume the muscles respond not only to absolute temperature, but, but to relative temperature too. Thus you get out of bed, feel cooler and your cremaster muscles contract. There is also a psychological effect. Have you tried, whilst lying in bed, imagining putting on a heavy ball weight, and involuntarily imagining it being cold - suddenly your balls have contracted? It's happened to me - and of course no physical change in temperature has taken place. Any experts out there care to enlighten us further? Incidentally, I have more than 3" of stretch and I can still end up very quickly with balls tight and retracted, even after several nights of heavy steel.

Hi Dave,
Thank you for sharing your fantasy. All I can say is that is an awesome fantasy. I would love for that to happen to me. The thought of not having control would be fantastic. I love bondage and ball stretching. I think it is an awesome combination. My cock got rock hard just reading your fantasy.

Hi Mingemasher, been thinking again about you hanging from your balls! Or initially, from penis & balls together. An awesome thought, but I reckon - dangerous.

I suggested before that you would want a fast release mechanism, in case it all "got too much".

As an engineer, I imagine you use a pulley with a x4 mechanical advantage to pull yourself up. This means a fair bit of rope lying around if you raise your bum about a metre off the deck. Ie some 4 to 5 metres of loose rope.

So, real care if you think you can just let go the rope "in an emergency". Being a fourfold mechanical advantage through the pully system, the loose end of the rope will "fly" back at 4x speed, plus even much faster under the ever-increasing acceleration of your body due to gravity. & a bit more again when your "super-stretched" package retracts to just "stretched"!

Real fast. The loose end of the rope could well fly up & around a pulley & jam ......

By Newton's law of gravity your bum will be accelerating down towards the deck & might come to an abrupt halt, probably at least doubling the yank on your package!

So, in an "emergency", no matter what the pemptation, just feed the rope back out - don't simply let go.

Or have an easily removable pin that readily pulls out UNDER LOAD.

We want to hear of your progress, not of your demise!

Cb

PS how long will it take to hoist yourself up (balls & penis together, not balls alone, please, please), spin around say 180 deg, & get a photo? Would seem like an eternity in suspension.

Hi Cb,

Excellent; enjoyed reading that!

I don't hoist myself up: I stand on a stepladder in the garage with a rope attached to a girder above & gradually ease myself lower, keeping a firm hold (on the rope!). It's all very gradual and I cannot quite let go of the rope yet.
My camera only has a ten sec auto delay so I'll get a friend to take a pic if I succeed. OK?

Hi Mingemasher, now you've really got me worried.

I have enough trouble climbing a stepladder hanging on to it, let alone standing on it, presumably no hands, & leaning backwards to transfer your weight from your feet to your package. tied by a fixed rope to a girder above.

Gaud, wouldn't want that ladder to skid away & leave you clammoring for grip on that rope. Hope someone is close enough by to hear your yells for help & come & cut you down! Embarrassment better than castration!

Guess you are pulling your package in a mostly upwards direction & you are pretty much in control, bending legs to apply the load.

I've envisaged trying it, but, as you'd have gathered, I was contemplating lying flat on my back & raising first my bum off the ground, then my upper legs (with my feet still firm on the deck), then all my legs, then gradually raise my back to the shoulders ......

I once tried, balls only, but didn't get to first base! & I doubt I ever could go any where near suspending my 200 lbs from my package, certainly not from my balls.

Hope you've got a sharp knife tied conveniently to that haul-rope for salvation from a possible mishap!

Cb

Hi Cb,

Great stuff!

I sent the Ed a few pics of myself: I'm pretty light & nimble, quite strong I guess insofar as I can lift my own weight easily; thus I can get away with easing myself whilst holding on.

That said, It's getting more uncomfortable. I want a neoprene 4"/10cm ball stretcher...

Regards "shrunk-up" morning balls.

Yes, the common explanation is that our sperm factories like to churn out their goodies at a bit less than body temperature, & that when the ambient temperature is lower than body temperature, our balls retract up to the warmth of our body.

But where I live it can be pretty hot of a morning - mid thirties. I can be doing manual work in a "bath of sweat" - & still have tight balls. Then later in the day, in the arvo, I can be in a nice airconditioned 25 deg environment, with my balls flopping around between my legs. I don't get it.

Do balls reckon they have to work at maximum output each morning to replenish the "loss" from the night before? But this doesn't add up for me - even if I haven't ejaculated for a week, just the same - tightish balls of a morning, loosening off nicely during the arvo.

And once those precious sperm are produced, where are they stored ready for the next serve? Think it's in the prostate - at full body temperature. But perhaps the manufacturing process is a bit more critical than the storage facility .....

Another explanation - perhaps it all goes back to our ancestry when we hunted naked for our food. Get up in the morning, feel hungry, go off & hunt down a pig or something, make a partial kill with a spear - run in & grapple the wounded animal to the ground - wouldn't want your balls to be hanging down whilst finishing it off with multiple hits to its head with a rock & collect a fighting animal's flaying foot - hence the retracted balls. Then after dragging the kill back to the cave & putting it on the "spit" for the afternoon, no more danger to the balls & they hang freely. QED. (Though I'm sure someone will shoot holes in this explanation)

On reflection, might shoot myself - didn't the fertility of (male) poms diminish a few hundred years back when it was fashionable to dress with fleecy-lined cod pieces? Nice warm floppy balls, but low sperm production, few off-spring.

For me, humidity has a fair bit to do with it. Working hard (& naked)on a hot day even in the afternoon doesn't necessarily mean "balls swinging in the breeze". Scrotums have a lot of sweat glands & that sweat evaporates "in the breeze" cooling the balls & making thm pull up. Better to sunbathe & even sweaty balls will soon hang down my arse between my legs where the breeze can't get to them to chill them.

Oiling the bag seems to help - clogs the pores & limits the evaporative cooling.

And having gained an inch plus in bag length seems to help a bit (just a bit) in the mornings.

But, for me, the best time & conditions for swinging balls is arvo/evening & in a 25 - 30 deg temp - with me just wandering/lolling around not doing anything to build up a sweat.

Anyone enlighten further?

Hi Ms,
Thanks for your comments on the fantasy. I must confess it got me not a little excited writing it! So much so, that episode two is now available! If anyone's interested let me know and I'll email it to them (save boring the forum as it's kinda long!)
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OK by popular demand, here is episode two.....

The ‘phone rang. It was Carla, “Hang on Carla, I’ll get Jane” I said. “No no Dave” she said hurriedly “It’s you I wanted to speak to”. My pulse quickened. “You’ll remember when we were round a couple of weeks ago?” “How could I forget?” I murmured, but she carried on, a little breathlessly “Coming into the study like that, I can’t get it out of my head. You looked so….” She hesitated “…Vulnerable, and I must confess I was really turned on, and wanted to get more involved. Jane’s a lucky girl. Your balls were unbelievable, I’ve never seen anything like that before, and I’d love to have you at my mercy some more and see just what is possible!” She paused, clearly waiting for a response. What to say? I was really turned on by being helpless in front of her, and desperate for more, but what would Jane say if she found out? I decided I had to take the risk. “Yes Carla” I stammered “I was turned on too, and actually would have loved you to do more” I heard a sharp intake of breath, and realised she was taking a big gamble too. “Wonderful!” she breathed, then hurriedly continued “We’re coming round to visit again next week - Wednesday, and I’ll be checking out the study for sure. I hope I’ll find you ready and waiting?” My turn for a sharp intake of breath, how on earth was I going to last out until next week with that prospect? “I’ll be ready” was all I could manage, and she hung up.

The next few days were hell, with damp erections every time the thought crossed my mind and it crossed my mind pretty frequently!

Eventually Wednesday came, and like before, Jane mentioned nothing about the get together I knew was imminent. Around 7:00pm I asked Jane to chain me up in the study again. I saw her hesitate and check her watch, then say “OK but we’ll have to hurry”. I didn’t ask why we had to hurry, confident I already knew the reason. Pretty soon I was spreadeagled against the wall of the study again secured with padlocks and chains, my balls hanging down between my legs, an open invitation for playing with. I thought I saw Jane smiling to herself, but I knew what she was thinking. “Now” she said, her eyes glinting “I have to go out, but I’ll only be a couple of hours, so, be a good boy, and I’ll make sure you have a good time later!” I started to protest, but she turned on her heel and was out of the study before the words were out. A minute or two later, I heard the front door bang shut. Bloody Hell! What was going on?

Being chained and padlocked to the wall, I was helpless, and I languished there for nearly quarter of an hour, getting very frustrated, and bored, when I heard footsteps in the hall. “Jane?” I shouted. No reply. The boredom dissipated, and was replaced by concern. “Jane?” I shouted again. No reply. The study door, opened, and concern turned to excitement as I recognised the perfume, before I saw Carla move quietly into the room. How had she got in the house? What was going on? Lots of questions, but they all vanished when slowly Carla started to unbutton her long black coat to reveal just fine black lace underwear! Her tiny see through briefs could hardly hold flat the triangle of lush dark hair pushing against the lace. Her wonderful flat tummy smoothed upwards to beautiful breasts that were accentuated by hard erect nipples slightly compressed by a see through black lace bra that was trying hard to keep the weight of her heavy breasts supported. Her long legs were silky and shimmering in black stockings. As she slipped off her stiletto heels, and moved closer towards me. I could see she was breathing hard, obviously excited.

I started to ask questions. How did she….but with a stern look and a wave of her hand I got the message she had other things on her mind, and chained helplessly to the wall I felt suddenly completely subservient. She quickly looked over the leather parachute and weights lying at my feet. “There’s a tube of lubricant over there” I nodded to the desk, but she shook her head “I don’t like the taste of lube” she said smiling and my stomach lurched wildly. Her coat slid to the floor, and I watched mesmerised as she slowly approached me, her eyes now closely focussed on my balls. Her body was amazing, and as she leaned forward and kissed me deeply on the mouth, I could feel my erection rubbing against her flimsy lace, while her breasts pressed softly against me. My mind was spinning. She slowly lowered herself to her knees and her head came level with my groin. I waited. Her cool hand cupped my hanging balls and it felt like heaven. I looked down longingly at the beautiful sight of her kneeling in front of me, unbelievably sexy in her elegant black lace. Her other hand came up to my balls and she formed a circle round my sac with her forefinger and thumb. Then very slowly and very gently she pulled downwards against the orbs of my testicles. The sac stretched obligingly. She stopped and gazed up at my face, “Is it OK?” she asked with her eyes. I nodded, too choked to speak, and she turned her attention back to my balls clearly fascinated by what she was doing to me. More downward pressure and my extended sac stretched some more, until there was no more to give. My balls were hard and tight at the end of my long sac, and while she kept the pressure on with one hand, she gently stroked up and down the elongated scrotum with the other.

She was loving it, but not as much as me! I could hear her making soft moaning noises, and she leaned forward and took my eager penis in her mouth. She licked and sucked me and all the time my balls were tight stretched at their absolute extremity. She gently came off my cock and leaned back and admired the stretched package in front of her. She relaxed her hands and noticed how long and loose my balls hung now. Leaning forward again she gently cupped my dangling balls in her hand and before I knew what was happening she had one of my balls in her mouth, sucking me and squeezing me in her mouth with her tongue. One hand slid down to start stroking herself, whilst her other hand was sliding up and down my distended cock, and all the while the gentle wet sucking on my ball was like nothing I’d ever experienced. The action stopped again and she leaned back with something like a look of ecstasy on her face.

Searching around for the leather parachute, she slowly raised herself and I could she her black lace pants were now not damp, but wet with excitement. She came back with the parachute and gripped my balls firmly. Now I was nervous. Could she do this without rupturing me? Or inflicting damage? She was confident, I had to give her that. My balls went down between her encircled finger and thumb again. The long sac stretched out before her and she moaned again. The parachute was presented up, wrapped round and the studs snapped firmly shut. Phew! I realised I was rigid and sweating. She stepped back to admire. The weights were now in her hands. One got clipped on and down went my balls. The second right away pulled me down further, then a third. She paused to gaze at the effect, and I could feel the tubes inside me straining. She still had two weights left. That would make five kilos! It felt fantastic and my balls were now hanging unbelievably low. Thankfully she put the two remaining weights down. “We’ll get to these in a minute or two!” she said wickedly grinning. “Right now I want to see how your balls react if I masturbate you hard”, and with that she was grasping my cock and pumping it up down furiously. My balls did not disappoint her, they positively danced despite the three kilos of weight dragging them downwards. But now, the masturbation was having an incredible effect, and I was enormously sensitive to the wonderful sensation of the weight on my balls. NO NO! Don’t make me cum! I need to stay here forever on the edge and under her control and expert hands!. She sensed me tensing however and eased off, my cock throbbing and dribbling, my balls struggling against the pressure, my whole body straining forward to be near her.

She leaned back again, her wetness even more evident, her nipples rigid and prominent. She was clearly deeply aroused. The weights were in her hand again and she didn’t hesitate in clipping the last two onto me. I took the strain, it was desperately heavy now, but she was in control, and I was powerless to stop it. Anyway, I was so turned on, I felt I could have taken a hundred more! The length of my scrotum was truly amazing now and she was transfixed, but something was changing in her. She was longing, hurting, I could see it in her eyes. She stood up in front of me and hurriedly removed her thin, lacy pants.

She turned round and slowly backed on to me, pushing her wet pussy onto my hard cock and sliding into a deep deep penetration. She leaned forward with one hand to support herself against the desk, while the other hand went down between her legs and gripped my ball sac. She groaned in evident pleasure, and moved up and down on me hard. Now she was an animal in heat, she moved faster and faster, pumping her body on my hard rigid pole. It was finally too much for me, I exploded inside her, the hot cum surging upwards, supercharged by the long stretched balls, and her hand squeezing my scrotum like it was an exercise toy! She started shaking then moaning loudly, and finally screaming as her shuddering climax wracked her whole body, impaled as it was on my cock. It seemed to go on for an age, and the sensations were incredible. I never wanted it to end.

Slowly, however, the spasms gradually subsided for both of us, and after a seeming age she extricated herself from my cock and lowered herself down to the floor. She was exhausted but completely satisfied and very dreamy looking.

The noise from the study doorway startled both of us. It was Jane!

Her eyes took in the scene. Me chained to the wall, my balls heavily weighted down with weights, my cock thick, red and glistening with Carla’s recent passion, the lipstick marks; Carla lying exhausted on the floor virtually naked, the shine of my semen running down from her thick black bush over her fine black stocking and pooling on the carpet. “My God!” she said peevishly, “Carla! That’s five kilos! I told you not to go above three!”

Thanks Dave, That was awesome. My cock got so hard reading your fantasy.

MS

Where is everyone located? I'd like to find a fellow stretcher near me. I have created a Frappr map "Ballstretchers" at http://www.frappr.com/?a=constellation_map&mapid=137440288178&inviteid=1192435&h=6ee2b04127e9f5fd I invite all who would like to, to add themselves to the map. It is in the xrated area of frappr so you can upload a picture of your accomplishments.

It is a new map, therefore very few on it so far, you may be the second,. Add youself and then check back later to see if anyone else has been added.

Ballstretcher
I have tried to add myself I am in Ohio feel free to contact me

I was able to hang from my balls for about five seconds today, after three months of working up to it. It's not too painful any more. If anyone's interested I'll take a photo...

Hi there!
looks like no one is here anymore!!??
i'm stretching since a while,like it very much!
since a while i've got a new women in my life and don't know how to tell her that i like to stretch my balls,which makes me horny all the time!
any advice would be much apreciated!

testing

A few days ago I had requested access to this forum with an email to dave@secretleather.com as stated in the instruction. I waited for a notification on my access, but decided to try to log in. Well, I found my access was created and I am on. So if you had requested access via email, your access may be there already. Try it and see. Anyone else on lately?

A few days ago I had requested access to this forum with an email to dave@secretleather.com as stated in the instruction. I waited for a notification on my access, but decided to try to log in. Well, I found my access was created and I am on. So if you had requested access via email, your access may be there already. Try it and see. Anyone else on lately?

Anyone else on this forum this year besides Curt and I?

Hello ... (echo) ... (echo) ......

hee, hee, hee ... Anyone else posting in this forum? I'm just adding to the discussion topics trying to get others to join in. Which topics I should throw in a message or two?

Does this forum have an Edit or Delete option with the posted messages? A spell checker would be helpful too. Thanks!

Sorry Highballs, no edit or delete function, other than by administrator. Was there one of your postings that you wanted to delete?
Dave

If you could delete the 'test posting area' topic. Thanks!

So ... how are other people coming alooooong with their balls?

Nothing? ... and why are you in this forum?

>>>>

By the way from my earlier posting, Dave did sent me the set up notification to the forum. My anti-spam software just got in the way. Check your spam folder if you are waiting for the forum access notification. Thanks Dave!

Hi guys.
I love wearing my heavy ball stretcher. I also love wearing a cock ring. (not at the same time!)
I like to wear these whilst masturbating. The feeling i get is amazing.
My girlfriend and me like to undertake in BDSM. Me being the one gets it!!
The trouble is, i like to wear the ballstretcher/cockring during this. But i can only wear them for about 10-15 minutes before my balls get too painful, blue and really cold. So much that i have to take them off to carry on.
I dont have any problems at all when going solo. So why when with my partner?
I'd like to be able to keep them on throughout our session.
Has anybody have ideas?

Cheers.
Keith

I've just joined this forum and what a magnificent group of low hangers you have on here!
Eventually I shall send some pics of my tackle but for now I shall just glory in the view of all yours.

Franky

Welcome Yknarfy! How long have you been stretching? What type of stretchers do you use? How often do you wear yours? Where are you from?

I have started to use Jarods suggestion of going slow and longer. I attempeted to leave (3) WMC's on for two weeks. I used plenty of lube, and kept them warm and soft all the time. I had been taking my blood pressure daily for about a month for my doctor, and on the 7th day my blood pressure started to go up a lot. I am normally 130/80 or less. It rose to 162/102 and it had never been this high before. I didn't think about the weights, but it dawned on me that maybe they are cutting off enough blood supply to the tissues that the heart increased the pressure to keep them healthy. I removed the weights, and it came back to normal. Don't know if anyone else ever had this experience. If I was not taking my blood pressure on a regualr basis I would have never know about it. Thought that this might be usefull. From now on I'll keep them on for about 5 days and off for 2 days and repaet.

This is a question for Jarod. I have two WMC's from Secret Leather. One is a 34 mm and the other a 36. I have been wearing the 36 on top and the 34 down low on top of my balls. I have noticed pressure on the balls. Would you recommend wearing the 36 down low on the balls and the 34 on top as a better way to use them? Possible the bigger diameter would be gentle on the balls
Thanks, Okie

Hi Okie, Thanks for your note. Try the 36mm on the bottom and the 34mm on top of that. There shouldn't be too much pressure on the balls because they are about 16oz and not too heavy a load.

I read about your rise in blood pressure also. I haven't experienced that. I have a home nurse visit once a week thursdays 9am and he checks vitals. My pressure is always around 120/65, and I am wearing 32oz of ball weights.

I think what happened is that your WMC may be too tight. Does your scrotum show thick veins that are dark purple? This is a sign that it is too tight. I don't think 5 days on and 2 off will make a difference. Blood circulation happens constantly, one second to the next. If something is too tight it will start to ache and then increase in pain. Pain and a dark purple color to thickened scrotal veins is a sign that blood is cut off from returning back into the body. Maybe the 34mm is too tight? Try experimenting with only the 36mm. Is it difficult to get the 34mm WMC on?

I've been wearing 32oz since late January and I don't have any trouble with circulation or blood pressure. I think your situation is unique, but I am glad you posted info about it so we all can be aware of blood flow in our sacks. Has the blood pressure spike happened again?

thanks for your note!
~~jarod

Hi Jarod
Thank you for your response. I just put the two back on yesterday with the 36 mm on the bottom and the 34 mm on top, and so far it is much more comfortable. My blood pressure is OK for now, but your probably right that the blood flow was cut off. They did keep getting purple, but I kept soaking them in hot water. I haven't noticed any veins that are a problem or pain, just purple and cold. From what you say, I should have larger weights on, and not cut off any circulation. I don't have any problem putting on the 34 mm as I use 2 silicon rubber cock-rings on the sack first and place the first WMC half between them. Works great. Thanks again for your reply
Okie

Hi Jarod
Thank you for your response. I just put the two back on yesterday with the 36 mm on the bottom and the 34 mm on top, and so far it is much more comfortable. My blood pressure is OK for now, but your probably right that the blood flow was cut off. They did keep getting purple, but I kept soaking them in hot water. I haven't noticed any veins that are a problem or pain, just purple and cold. From what you say, I should have larger weights on, and not cut off any circulation. I don't have any problem putting on the 34 mm as I use 2 silicon rubber cock-rings on the sack first and place the first WMC half between them. Works great. Thanks again for your reply
Okie

Hi Okie, having thought about it overnight I think that your 34mm is too small. The two cock rings you put on first artificially "compress" your sack hang and that's how you can fit the 34mm on. I'll bet if you tried putting the 34mm on with nothing else on your sack you'd have trouble doing it with the skin always getting in the way between the two halves.

Purple color and cold are certainly signs that blood flow is cut off. How small are the cock rings you put on? Those may also be cutting down on the return flow of blood also. I'll bet if you just wore the 36mm you would not have any problems. If you want something else on your sack I'd suggest a leather stretcher or a 16oz metal ball weight. I'm nervous about using cock rings on the ball sack...I don't suggest it.

Try just the 36mm on the bottom, the 34mm on top. No cock rings. If you have a purple color or sack feels cold then take off the 34mm.

If you want to sell your 34mm just let me know.. jarod.johansen@gmail.com ....then buy a 16oz ball weight with a 36mm ID instead (assuming the 36mm WMC alone does not cause circulation problems). That's much better than the constrictive cock rings and 34mm WMC.

~~jarod

Hi Jarod, thank you very much for your advice. First I only put the cock rings on for mounting the WMC's and then take them off right away. The cock rings are 1.25 ID with a .25 diameter to the ring material. It is very stretchy, so easy to get off. I put the cock rings on first with lube, and then place 1/2 of the WMC below. Then spread the two rings apart and drop the upper half of the WMC on top. I gently rotate the WMC pieces just a little back and forth and the two halves just meet up tight. I never pinch any skin so this works very well for me. I fully understand what you say about the 34. I also have a 32 mm but it has always been too tight, and could never wear it. I'll contact you by mail to see if you are interested in either the 34, the 32, or both. Also where do you get the 16 oz. ball weight. Does that have a square sharp with ample radius's as compared to the completely round WMC's. Does it make since to you to go to 38 mm for anything new that rides on the 36 WMC? This would give room to breath, and I don't think that the slight difference in size would make a difference?
Thanks again.

Hi Jarod, thank you very much for your advice. First I only put the cock rings on for mounting the WMC's and then take them off right away. The cock rings are 1.25 ID with a .25 diameter to the ring material. It is very stretchy, so easy to get off. I put the cock rings on first with lube, and then place 1/2 of the WMC below. Then spread the two rings apart and drop the upper half of the WMC on top. I gently rotate the WMC pieces just a little back and forth and the two halves just meet up tight. I never pinch any skin so this works very well for me. I fully understand what you say about the 34. I also have a 32 mm but it has always been too tight, and could never wear it. I'll contact you by mail to see if you are interested in either the 34, the 32, or both. Also where do you get the 16 oz. ball weight. Does that have a square sharp with ample radius's as compared to the completely round WMC's. Does it make since to you to go to 38 mm for anything new that rides on the 36 WMC? This would give room to breath, and I don't think that the slight difference in size would make a difference?
Thanks again.

Hi Jarod, thank you again for your article on stretching. I just found the part on measuring for the steel weights, and found out that I needed a 38mm size at the smallest. This was using your 78% multiplier. Now I can order the correct size and see what happens. Without your chart I would be in the dark. Thanks again.

hey okie... i also am an okie... was just wondering what parts you are in... hope all is going well with your stretching!!!

Well, I can understand thinking that I was an Okie, but that's been my nick name since I was a little guy. I lived at the time in MA. Now live in California.
Thanks for the mail

Seems to be many experienced stretchers out there, so it would be nice to hear anyones opinion in stretching the spermatic cord. Ive heard many having different length of the cords, left and right, and I have not succeeded in stretching the scrotum yet because of the restraint by the right side cord. It differs an inch or so. I do carry ringmaster 24/7 but there seems to be some place in the sac to fillup before the "real" stretching can begin. Some helpful tips, anyone? (besides time there is)

Hey Goran, just check out the chapter on Stretching Exercises in my article at secretleather.com/jarod.johansen

~~jarod

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